Posts by Half banana

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What is the benefit of God's Kingdom?

by Half banana in

what is the benefit of god's kingdom?.

the watchtower said when it started out in 1879 that god's kingdom had already arrived in heaven in 1874 and that its work would be complete by 1914. .

with heroic slogans of "destroying the kings of the earth" and "all enemies of christ the king" etc by 1914, "god fearing" humankind was to have been restored to prelapsarian innocence and the earth to a global edenic paradise.

Half banana

Yes Wonder, God's invisble kingdom brought about business as usual --perhaps it doesn't exist?

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Hebrews 13:8

by Acer21 in

hebrews 13:8.

"jesus christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.".

the book of hebrews declare that jesus is god in this verse.

Half banana

Believers in Jesus have to take everything on trust about him. No historical eyewitness saw Jesus and no one wrote down verbatim what he said. His name does not even appear in any text until the end of the second century in fact neither does his description "Christ" appear until much later. The Greek text says Chrestus meaning "good" [man], the same word was used to designate earlier God-men saviours. In the early centuries he was mainly known just as "the Lord".

As for the "Word of God" this was borrowed, like much NT material from current Greek philosophy giving some needed gravitas to the Christian text.

I suggest that the reason the text at Heb 13;8 was included in the BIble was because the concept of Jesus as the Son of God and the Chrestus was constantly changing and the bishops (yes they had bishops: episcopoi) needed to stamp out dissent and give some clarification. Note the context; Heb 13:9 warns "not to be led astray by all sorts of strange doctrines". JB

Like the JW doctrines today, beliefs about Christ (and everything else) change over time, JWs no longer worship Jesus for example, and are based on expediency, that is, what is now favourable to believe for the sake of the furtherance of the cult.

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My wife PIMI wife said today...." The Tribulation has started"

by goingthruthemotions in

my wife pimi wife said today...." the tribulation has started" i was like wtf... i know things are bad.

but...... we have had other pandamics and market crashes in the past.

1889: russian flu 360,000 perished.

Half banana

A quote from the poet WH Auden: People are not sent to hell, they (PIMIs) insist on going there themselves.

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Why did you have so many jobs???

by Terry in

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friends

why did i have so many jobs?.

i became a velcro salesman, but i couldn't stick with it.and besides - it was a ripoff.. i tried my hand at a career in tennis, but it wasn't my racket and i was too high strung.. i was a masseur for a while, but i seemed to rub people the wrong way.next i got a job at a pool company, but the work was too draining.then?i was a historian, but i couldn't see a future in it.i took a job as an elevator operator—the job had its ups and downs, and i got the shaft.. i became a banker, but i had an affair with boss's wife because she promised to hold my interest right up to the moment of withdrawal.. i just lost my job as a psychic.

i did not see that coming.if a job’s worth doing, it’s too hard.. i quit my job working for nike.

Half banana

I used to be a dentist but became too down in the mouth.....after all drilling holes in teeth is boring.

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The Holy Spirit

by Acer21 in

if the holy spirit is an "active force", how can it be grieved (ephesians 4:30)?.

in other words, according to the jw's, one can make jehovah's "force" sorrowful?

this is an example of how the jw leaders have perverted the gospel in translation, and have put the jw's in a position in which they must perform intellectual gymnastics in order to maintain their false position.

Half banana

Only kidding Cofty like I imagine RubaDub is

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The Holy Spirit

by Acer21 in

if the holy spirit is an "active force", how can it be grieved (ephesians 4:30)?.

in other words, according to the jw's, one can make jehovah's "force" sorrowful?

this is an example of how the jw leaders have perverted the gospel in translation, and have put the jw's in a position in which they must perform intellectual gymnastics in order to maintain their false position.

Half banana

@ Rub a Dub. Speaking as another active JW, you will have to get your hair cut brother or they'll take away your public talk privileges.....

Hb

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The Holy Spirit

by Acer21 in

if the holy spirit is an "active force", how can it be grieved (ephesians 4:30)?.

in other words, according to the jw's, one can make jehovah's "force" sorrowful?

this is an example of how the jw leaders have perverted the gospel in translation, and have put the jw's in a position in which they must perform intellectual gymnastics in order to maintain their false position.

Half banana

The Koine Greek work for spirit pnevma (as already mentioned, grammatically neuter) meant wind and air, genderising it made it possible to indicate a personification -- but that doesn't make it factual!

As someone who had been deceived by the lure of the JW religion and the 'holiness' of the Bible, I now consider "Holy Spirit" to be a load of wind and hot air, undefined and uncontained -- unless you put it in your pneumatic tyres.

What a propaganda coup it was back in the day to get the pathetically submissive true believers to conceptualise an invisible helper to an already invisible force.

Just wear a funny hat and call a thing "holy" and oh my, how you can fool people! Yes this idea of holy spirit deserves ridicule.

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Crocodile tears

by road to nowhere in

assembly experiences.

brother so and so gets sick goes to hospital, refuses blood, dies; leaving widow and orphans.

then the experience continues--usual meals and such, then the bastards actually took the family door to door within a few days.

Half banana

Did pioneering truly make "all problems insignificant?"

The poor woman obviously had serious problems which her faith, pioneering, and the 'wisdom' of the JW organisation could not cure. Her actions demonstrated that instead of answering her problems, the likes of which we all have in life, they were simply left unresolved to fester inside until she had suffered enough.

It surely is much better to honestly recognise the fact if we have serious concerns than be bullied into conformity by others.

Instead of helping us to grow emotionally and psychologically, being a JW, especially for a woman, adds a new set of burdens in submitting to the authority of husband and the elders. On top of that there is no escaping the situation or disagreeing without being pilloried.

There is a dreadful tendency amongst JWs to wear the mask of Kingdom happiness to smother pressing internal conflicts. Was there ever any gain in becoming a pawn in a religious cult?

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Governing Body

by Acer21 in

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Half banana

There is no proof for anything which Jehovah's Witnesses teach.

Being "anointed" is just as much a fiction as being one of the "other sheep".

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Interesting piece about Stephen Lett and family: property developers

by Diogenesister in

another very well researched programme by the blue envelope exploring stephen lett's bio and his family interest in property.

interestingly his parents were pioneering until the new service year 1975 , when they immediately changed tack and began investing in properties along the gulf coast.

once again, highly recommended veiwing.. https://youtu.be/9qh0jbvsdrc.

Half banana

Yep, it's interesting Diog. I think the lesson is to emulate the Lett parents who on realising that the Watchtower never delivers its promises, do something practical and enjoyable instead.